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BUREAU INTERVIEW: PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND
SINCE THIS INTERVIEW, WE ARE  PROUD TO HAVE MS. HOLLAND AS A REGULAR 
PHOTOGRAPHIC CONTRIBUTOR AND COLUMNIST WITH HER "NEW YORK STYLE"


Can you remember early on, the first time an image actually spoke to you in a personal way ?

Of course I grew up surrounded by images (but in comparison to today’s childhood, it was a visual void)--TV (Flintstones, Jetsons), movies (Disney, Hayley Mills), Look, Life (I remember a strange, very blue image of Nixon shopping for real estate, peering into a window of the guest house at San Clemente, and on the cover of that issue, a black and white group portrait of three men in sharp suits (whom years later, coming across the magazine in my parents’ basement, I was surprised to recognize as John Cassavetes, Peter Falk and Ben Gazarra). But the first visual images that I remember wowing me were the portraits of Simon and Garfunkel (on the cover of “Bookends”--but it would literally be a decade before I knew it was shot by Avedon and who he was), and the Beatles (+ everyone) for “Sgt. Pepper.” But studying/working with images, for me, first, it was words, reading: Nikos Kazantzakis, Ai (Florence Anthony), Richard Hugo, Wendell Berry, Elizabeth Bishop--I studied literature and creative writing in school; writing: my attempts at poetry in classes with Ai, Milton Kessler and John Vernon. Some of the most powerful images for me are still words--I just watched (staying up way too late) “True Detective” (great performances, gorgeously shot) and the Handsome Family’s song over the opening credits, “Far From Any Road” has a line, “and when I touched her skin my fingers ran with blood.” Beautiful, horrible, perfectly paired with the visual images in the credit sequence. I actually became a photographer by fortuitous accident, but that’s a separate story.


DAVID MAMET BY BUREAU OF ARTS AND CULTURE NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND








Your single image facial portraits are particularly strong; David Lynch, Amiri Baraka, George Clooney, David Mamet. What can you share with our readers about these images, the photo sessions and or your approach ? 



Individual portraits  (in  my  studio,  environmental  portraits  have  extra  elements) are largely about emotional honesty (and the lighting). I started shooting like this with the title of a Peter Handke novel,  “A Moment of True Feeling”  in my head.  Hopefully I get a truthfulness ( yeah,  I know, with that word,  I too, think  “truthiness” --  Colbert  has colonized our minds), a steadiness in the eyes, a presence.  I don’t go in for affectlessness, what I’ve jokingly called the recovered memory portrait.  There is something timeless about your work:  Joseph Beuys,  Phillip Glass,  McCoy Tyner. Each image seemingly taken today. How do you go about configuring your portraiture ?I’m often asked  ( sometimes by people who should know more--sure, maybe some are being ironic) if I’m “capturing someone’s “essence.” That’s a cliché to me, like “closure.” I was photographing a well-known sculptor (he was doing the shoot with resistance, as a favor for a friend who was an editor at the magazine) in his studio when, with heavy sarcasm, he asked the essence question. Risking angering him, I answered, “I’ve only been here for a half hour. If I’ve figured out “your essence” in that amount of time, you don’t have much.” He relaxed some.


JOSEPH BEUYS                                                                BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND
I’m nosy (I like to think that’s because I’m a journalist) and during most shoots we talk a lot, laugh a lot. I’m lucky (well, it’s not entirely luck) that I shoot people that I’m genuinely interested in, engaged with the work they’ve done. There’s often a specific intimacy that develops and then the person is gone (sometimes forever, sometimes only until another assignment--quite a few of my subjects have shown up repeatedly). (Anecdotes: I was supposed to shoot David Lynch on 9/13/01. Of course the shoot was cancelled, eventually rescheduled the following month, part of a junket. He called me “ma’am”--struck me funny, maybe he didn’t get my name; I kind of ambushed Joseph Beuys. I had an assignment to photograph Documenta 7 in Kassel in 1982 and was having an unusual amount of difficulty adjusting to the time zone. One morning I was up and photographing outside around 6:00 am. And there he was, raincoat, fedora, unmistakably Joseph Beuys. I approached him and herded him over to his piece (“7000 Oaks”), explaining I was working for Portfolio (now a long- extinct art magazine). I think he was surprised to see someone else up that early, surprised that an American (my accent gave me away) recognized him and was so obviously excited to photograph him. He offered to sit on his piece--I never would have asked. At another shoot Robert Rauschenberg jumped onto his “1/4 Mile or 2 Furlong Piece” at the Met--as horrified staffers looked on--but remained silent. Great for the photos that “don’t touch the art” doesn't apply to the artists.


CINDY SHERMAN                                                          BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND
   


I had shot George Clooney before, with the Coen Brothers, whom I had first met years earlier at a screening of “Blood Simple” before it was released and shot previously, at Cannes. I think that’s why he remembered me but I’m also sure that friendly, funny, smart, charming is his default setting. He kissed my assistant and me good-bye on our cheeks. She was gleeful but not for the obvious reason. The shoot was a few days before Thanksgiving and that evening she was returning home to spend the holiday with her Evangelical family in Texas, who was displeased about her living in New York, her career choice, etc. She knew that being kissed by Clooney could occupy a lot of conversation time that otherwise would have been devoted to disapproval.) 

PUBLIC ENEMY                                                       BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND


The group shots are particularly creative: Magnetic Fields, The Composers, Ritz Chamber players. There is a real vitality, energy and genuine happiness to many of these images, but overall the composition remains very balanced. Will you share with us what one of these sessions is like and your general take on the challenges of photographing a group ? 


Although I haven’t photographed anywhere near as many musicians as filmmakers, actors or artists, the majority of my group shoots has been with musicians. With groups, emotion too, sure, and great lighting, of course, but also I think about the bodies as forms to be organized in space. I really like doing it and as performers whose work is done live (and together), musicians are good “raw material,” can easily stand or sit as requested--and they bring beautiful instruments. And with rare exception they’re all focused, cooperative. But of course it’s the rare exceptions that stick in the memory. 

TAYLOR MEAD                                                                   BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND


You know the quote from Tolstoy about the sameness of happy families--all good shoots blend too. But I’ll probably always remember the young woman who was seized with “the vapors”each time I gave another young woman in the ensemble a prominent place in the set-up. My assistant called the time-waster “the fainting goat.” Do three people count as a group shot? When I was photographing Alfonso Cuáron, Gael Garcia Bernal and Diego Luna for a magazine, the distributor (of “Y Tu Mamá También”) arranged for a top-notch stylist and while there’s always a lot of clothes at a group shoot, that day it looked like the trendiest department for men at Barney’s had exploded in my studio. It was really fun. It’s less hard to get everyone looking good in the same frame than you’d imagine. I’m not sure why but it was true before digital too when I often shot fewer frames (budget constraints). 

Five Boys Near Ground Zero                                                       BUREAU PHOTOGRAPHER  Robin HOLLAND

Three of my non-musician favorite group shots: five boys in their neighborhood (Tribeca), near ground zero on 9/12/01; director Laurent Cantet and the students who made up the non-professional cast of his great film, “The Class.” The French teenagers had never been to New York before and it took more energy to wrangle them than the dogs that were part of another favorite shot--gay artists, their partners and their canines for a Gay Pride issue of The Village Voice. I recently started shooting interiors (and landscapes and flowers too--really) and I think that my approach to groups (the sense of forms in space and the light throughout the frame) helped me hit the ground running. My first project was shooting eight houses in New York’s Hudson Valley, working with writer/editor Linda O’Keeffe on her new Rizzoli book, “Heart and Home: Rooms That Tell Stories” (which will be published this fall) and I’m thrilled that one of my images is on the back cover.

JENNY HOLZER                                                             BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND


Many of your images are in the square format, we spoke briefly about you utilizing non digital formats, tell us about your equipment and process through the years and how that has influenced your work to this day.

Photography has always been wedded to technology. But not committed--glass plates, tintypes, gum bichromate prints, etc., etc., are all relics of the past (but ripe for artists' revisioning/use) and now too film is receding into history. I don't miss the materials per se, except for Polaroid's 665 (b&w positive/negative), and although I was a very good black and white printer, my Epson 7900 made me forget my darkroom (most of which I recently donated to a small college that’s party of New York’s CUNY system). But I miss the esthetic--square (portrait's perfect format), b&w used without need for justification, without it seeming like a bid for attention. 

KAREN FINLEY                                                                   BUREAU NYC PHOTOGRAPHER ROBIN HOLLAND


Pawel Pawlikowski’s recently released “Ida”--best film I’ve seen this year--needs to be b&w but other films’ (and photos) use of b&w is the equivalent of stunt casting. So I crop images (“The Class” group, Ritz Chamber Players, both shot with my Canon 5D Mark II, a camera I really like)--something that I was taught was verboten, but that was then--and shoot square with my phone. And I pine for my Hasselblad 500 C/M which I use sometimes with a Phase One P45 back. 3x4 isn’t square but it’s better than 35mm. But the two cords required to make the electronic/digital component work with the basic box camera can be annoying and unreliable. But I do get to use all my beautiful Zeiss prime lenses. 



And I’ve made friends with 35mm again (I started with a Pentax Spotmatic, then two Nikon F2s, which I still have--big, black, sentimental pendants). My first 35mm digital was a Nikon D70 but I reluctantly abandoned Nikon for Canon, which won the race to make the first 35mm full-frame digital cameras. I’m crazy about my Canon zooms, 24mm-70mm and 70mm-200mm and amazed that I’m fine with them replacing primes. Great with just two lenses to have (almost) all lenses, all the time in my bag. (I also have 20mm and an incredible tilt shift lens, TS-E 24mm). And great too to have all the ASAs that are possible with the 5D. I also have a little Canon G10. I take it everywhere and I once dropped in the Groverkill (a stream)--actually a lot of me ended up in the stream--but it dried out. I think the different formats, cameras, iphone, digital, film, Polaroid, have, perhaps paradoxically, contributed to how I see my work (past and current)--I’ve stopped classifying which of my images are meant as journalism, which are portraiture, which are art. And it’s also time and history that scramble these things.  







DAVID FAHEY : The Fahey/Klein Art Gallery


Listen To The Entire Audio Interview at BUREAU MAGAZINE  By Joshua A. Triliegi







 Spending time with a man like David Fahey is sort of difficult to describe. He's affable, funny, irreverent, but also knows exactly what he's doing and he's pretty damn aware of what you are doing too. Several days prior to our visit with David Fahey, a picture of Brad Pitt exiting the Fahey/Klein gallery was splayed across the internet. The image was taken by the current Hollywood paparazzi. It is safe to say that this image was not created by an artist and most likely will not be hanging in a gallery in twenty-five years. So what is it that makes some images art and others simply images ? Thats a rather difficult question to answer as, much of what we like as a society and as individuals, is subjective. One thing we learn rather quickly while spending time with Mr. Fahey is that the art of selling an image is equally as important as the art of creating one. Our ongoing series of Interviews with the owners, art dealers and curators attempts to lift the veil of mystery that shrouds much of what we call the art world. Were not giving away trade secrets or formulas, that would be sacrilegious. What we are doing is simply creating a common dialogue and taking you, the reader and now via the internet, the listener, into a world you may not likely access   otherwise. So, lets step into the back office with Los Angeles' top Photographic Art Dealer. 




The Phil Stern catalog is a gold mine. Growing up with a fascination for film, art, music and even literature, one could not help but notice and appreciate, through the years, what Phil Stern did with the camera. His subjects often knew he was there, but still, he captured the essence of their character and the very style and inner qualities that we so love about these people. Dean, Brando, Marilyn, Frank, Ella : we know these people on a first name basis, how is that ? Much of it has to do with the camera, the image, be it still or be it moving. Stern got his subjects to share themselves with us.






" I Really Understood The Power Of The Image… "
                                                                                                    - David Fahey
Images mean something to us as humans, they capture a time and they capture a place, forever. Being a human is a frail and transitory experience, it just doesn't last forever. For whatever reason, having an image of a loved one, an entertainer, a particular location can mean quite a bit and in the case of the image becoming a valuable collectible commodity, Mr. Fahey has been on the front lines in more ways than one. David fought in the Vietnam War and when iconic photos of that war hit the front pages, he noticed the effect the images had on society. Upon returning home, he began teaching the History of Photography, assisted in a Gallery for over ten years, meeting and befriending many of the established photographers and most of the up & comers too. Finally and quite successfully launching his own Art Gallery located on La Brea in what is commonly called the Metropolitan Section of Los Angeles in the Original Art Gallery Row, South of Beverly and North of Wilshire.




Mr Fahey explains, "Back in those days, there were no galleries showing photography, photography wasn't even accepted as an art form." People laughed when Mr. Fahey demanded that the photograph was ART. He befriended Ansel Adams and later sold a single image for a record amount of money. "We sold an Ansel Adams photo for 80,000 dollars and people thought it was a joke, they just didn't understand, and so, this was back in the seventies, there was no market, there were no collectors, there were a handful who were well known in America."Decades later, everyone now knows that Photographs are indeed an accepted Art Form and current museum budgets can barely keep up with their value. Imagine what it must have been like to know a certain truth, before anyone else and finally: justification in commerce. 

" It's really about the best photographs in all the genres. "                                                                   - David Fahey



The gallery catalogue is so incredible and extensive that we found it difficult picking and choosing images. The history of Art, Music, Film, Fashion and the counter culture of America itself is housed within these images. For decades this gallery has provided a home for photojournalists, and photographers of all sorts, styles and bodies of work that are important and enduring, exacting and entertaining, collectible and sometimes heartbreaking. 


      Photographer: William Claxton       John Coltrane  at The Guggenheim Museum              Fahey/Klein

Thirty years later and some forty-five books in design, it is time to reflect. "You have to trust your instincts right away and so, if you believe in the artist, if you believe in the work, there's a point in time where it's going to click and it's going to happen." 



" You have to trust your instincts right away and so, 
          if you believe in the artist, if you believe in the work, 
                              there's a point in time where it's going to click "
                                                                          - David Fahey 




                   
                                               




Although Fahey / Klein represents a multitude of Fashion related photographers such as Herb Ritts and Ellen Von Unwerth, Mr Fahey explains, " The perception is that we have a heavy leaning towards fashion and pop culture images and an aspect of that is true. But I would say, we also have James Nachtway, Steve Schapiro, Gary Winogrand, Gene Richards : All the iconic Photojournalists." The list is daunting. In some cases the gallery represents the photographer directly, such as Phil Stern, in other cases, they may own a few images or are simply working directly with The Estate as they do with Diane Arbus. 


"If the pictures are strong and unique and powerful, 

         that will surface, that recognition will come your way 
                                       and things will start happening for you." 

                                                                       - David Fahey




    Mary Ellen Mark Image :  Cast of Cuckoo's Nest                                               Fahey / Klein Gallery

Which brings us to a part of our conversation where David discusses the commitment one has with more challenging, difficult, controversial or even, ahead of their time photographers and images. When asked how he was able to stand by whole bodies of work that the public had not immediately understood or even appreciated, he explained it this way, " You have to trust your instincts right away and so, if you believe in the artist, if you believe in the work, there's a point in time where it's going to click and it's going to happen." When pressed to explain farther, he put it to us this way, "A lot of it has to do with juggling a lot of projects, you know, this isn't selling, so maybe it will next year, you still show it, present it, put it out there, but you've got three things over here that are working." 

"Its fun to see the artist come from nowhere to becoming 
           very well known, and to see the public being educated 
                                              as to the importance of these artists." 

                                                                           - David Fahey

      

        Entire David Fahey Audio Interview at BUREAUofARTSandCULTURE.COM 

      Photographer: Steve Schapiro



THE JAMES GABBARD PHOTO INTERVIEW
 
JAMES GABBARD Photographed Joshua Triliegi in 1996 / 97 at TRILIEGI STUDIO 

BUREAU OF ARTS AND CULTURE Flash Forward
Nearly Twenty years after his first exhibition at Bureau Art Center, Editor Joshua Triliegi 
& Mr. Gabbard and share ideas about photography, travel, philosophy, his first art exhibit at The Original BUREAU ARTS Center and what he is doing now with his photographs.

Interview with BUREAU Photographer James Gabbard 

JT: First of all, I would like our readers to know that You walked into The BUREAU about 18 years ago with a very serious catalog of images & we immediately agreed to show the work. Your influence was pretty intense. As I recall, you covered the entire gallery window space with vellum & exhibited the photographs in a slanted style reminiscent of The Classic Photographers of yesteryear : Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Walker Evans & that school. Since then, you've spent 12 years living in Hong Kong China, created a family & are now back in America. It's a pleasure to showcase your work again. Why did you choose the images that our readers are viewing and tell us something about this body of work ? 

JG: I see it now as a sort of isolation series: a cultural ideology. The result of 12 years in Asia as a foreigner, living, working, breathing, in all that is China. The city of Hong Kong is filled with seven million tightly packed people all trying to make a mark and get ahead. Artistically the photographic views I gravitated towards were silent, motionless steel, concrete & glass, all very cold materials to be intrigued by. This gave me two very serious bodies of work to conclude with, one, a Visual Multi-Media motion graphic series in which I shoot digital motion, capture, then re-edit it through post psd graphics & visual software called vdmx5, then run various live feed camera programmed projections onto and throughout the city scape's & club interiors. The other is a purely architectural abstract study of Hong Kong using a film format camera & a perspective of unique in-camera modification. For this special series I built a 16 frame film roll back technique I call (M.I.M) by designing and modifying my medium it allowed the creation of multiple images to be captured in one continuous series of frames: a flow of abstract identity. As a result, I guess subconsciously, the intersections of multiple lines in these images represent the people crossing over one another each day culturally, the shapes and dark shadows could be the philosophy of consumerism, strong juxtapositions of motion set in stone while social media inter play and identity populate the direction of progress.



" It was regarded as a highly successful photo series 
                    which lead to several shows in Rome" 


JT: The show at BUREAU Art Gallery in 1996, " Delirium of Silence " showcased  Portraits you took in Italy of people within a mental Institution.  What drew you to that subject ? 


JG: In 95 I moved to Rome Italy to live and work with my then wife Artist/Painter- Patrizia Martridonna. We stumbled into the Santa Maria della Pieta Institute one day to look at the magnificent grounds and architecture of this once private estate of multiple buildings and gardens, and met a man that day (a patient) and later found out he was the famous Italian Artist Giannini Fenue. We became friends and after several visits began to communicate through our related artistic interest, his in the beautifully drawn sketches of Patriza & mine in his life story & photogenic persona. An exchange of art, which led to the Medical Director of the asylum viewing my black and white pictures of Fenue and inviting me to shoot a case study of the other patients. This was a great honor since it had never been achieved before and politically the Roman government needed to give patronage for the project to commence. Over the next several months, I was allowed into the private mens housing & medical staffed treatment centers to observe and photograph the men of this ward. Each day I'd set up a black back ground in the court yard adjacent to the exit of a common room the patients used to paint & make art. This indoor/outdoor space became my external studio giving the men comfort to stroll freely. After some time passed, they would take a seat at the stool and I would begin the pictures. The entire film series would be developed and printed each evening in a make shift darkroom and later presented to the authorities and patients. It was regarded as a highly successful photo series which lead to several shows in Rome and gave me a chance to work with "The Patriza Foundation" and Unicef. 


" Some times to evolve internally 
                             one must move at a glacial pace"

JT: America, Europe, China all seem to have had an influence on you. Does traveling and say, searching for life itself, play into your work?

JG:  Most defiantly… Exploring, even if it's just by taking a different route home from a friends house has always given me a series of new ideas and complications to figure out. Thats been the drive for bigger and more complicated scenario's of achievement, I guess, like a move to the other side of the world. It's not really all about what happens while your there, its the process of departure and arrival once returned. I've always gone searching for trouble or situations that may cause conflict or mental diffusions from the norm. Learning chinese, altering your diet and physical condition are all good artistically diffused and challenged mediums to work with. 

JT: I started the magazine a few years ago mostly with a desire to continue those conversations we had among each other and the interdisciplinary aspect of Photographers, Musicians, Dancers, Artists, Painters, Sculptors, illustrators, writers: sitting in a room together discussing each others craft. You brought a very keen sense of presentation to the scene and yet at the same time seemed deeply grounded in a respect for tribal rituals: Drumming, Hiking, Singing. How important is it to hone your craft and at the same time follow the path ? 

JG: Ahh,  the "path" and "presentation", for me,  it's all the same.  I make most of it up as I go. But, 
I do notice when a fall - off or out is near. If by luck, its a radical new direction [then] after a while, if its a true radical direction, it fits and the path becomes one again or maybe it was never really divided & the direction is just a continuum in a newly presented presentation. I had a friend tell me once [that] I was a master of re-inventing myself, I thought that was weird at the time, but now take it as a compliment. Some times to evolve internally one must move at a glacial pace or go on line in search of Mars. 

       


"… The art of photography, as a pure medium, was
      the most important thing I could relate to …"


JT: As I recall, everyone [ The professionals ] on the scene, were very impressed by your work and yet, the local kids and neighbors seemed to understand it too. Does a show with Portraits as compared to say, Architecture create any certain challenges ? And how has your worked changed or evolved since that exhibit in 1996 ? 

JG: Photography and the act of the art of photography, as a pure medium, was the most important thing I could relate to while shooting everything that my eye thought to be a part of a theory in category placement, [from] architecturally driven shapes of a nude to the gutter soaked cigar-butt. Developing a sense of style for a subject matter came from life experiences and maybe that was the substance of related interest. I aspired to the artists of my own generation and those from past, while looking into the future to make the next statement.

JT: What kind of philosophy do you adhere to while ' looking for the image ' ? 

JG: I started out with this quote in my head from Henri Cartier - Bresson, " The Decisive Moment ". 
After re-interpreting his ideas, to include a post production element, it made the expansion for broader practical sense & was used with every direction I turned while viewing a subject matter with a metal box against my eye. It, then and still is, a foundation for me to see, develop and manipulate motion graphic imagery. 



" Im deeply routed in the old school theory 
                                        of shooting film …" 

JT: Your photographs, back then, were very rooted in a 'real film' aesthetic, does the digital aspect now change your process at all ? If so elaborate, if not, discuss how we can retain the integrity of the image as digital aspects of technology creep up on us more and more .  

JG: Im deeply routed in the old school theory of shooting film to express my more artistic still work but I'm all for progress & modern interpretation that the digital world has brought. That said, all of my art based photography is still shot with a film camera then scanned for larger output & cataloged to last beyond my lifetime. The work of (VJ-indef) which is an acronym for Inoperative - Defunct  dot com a creative based art production studio I developed back in LA just before leaving to Hong Kong in 2001. Its a massive combination of multi media motion graphic digital production. I use everything from originally shot HD captured movies to digital stills, then mash it up with motion graphic software and out put it through large scale projectors onto club walls and art spaces.


" Music provides me with great latitude 
         while moving in - between art forms … " 


JT: Do you remember all of the original BUREAU of ARTS and CULTURE crew taking drumming lesson together ? This was after we had all been playing for over several years, many were actually professionals ? How important is it to continue education, even for professionals ? 

JG: I truly believe in variety and the development of many forms of expression. Music provides me with great latitude while moving in-between art forms such as still photography to the multi-media motion graphics I've been creating and producing for the International DJ's in Hong Kong's club scene. For me its always the development of an instruments personality that I fall for, be it the African Djembe or the Jazz Trumpet, or the spin distortion an old Compact Disc makes that compliments my continuing education in music and way of life.



" I got a little older and realized that you must look at
                             or view all types of art works … " 


JT:  What words of advise do you have for our younger readers on The Art of  creating an image and continuing with the creation of a body of work ? 

JG: Art movements are just that, look at what the Chinese have done in the last ten years, and now they are getting half what was paid to them in 2008. Americans contemporary art scene is booming again, after the critics said painting was dead and the street art of London became the biggest profit margin for Capital flip investment groups. Shit, I'd never thought I'd give this type of advise. But,  when I was a lot younger, I thought that looking at too much work would have a direct or indirect influence on my own work and that might be a bad thing, but then I got a little older and realized that you must look at or view all types of art works so you can be in control and diminish your own adverse perspective. View only good works and read only good reviews to better understand what shit is out there. so when you step in it and it's faithfully your own, you have the spirit to find a good shoe shine.


JT:  We talked a lot about Philosophy back in my studio some years ago. What are you into these days and how does a person's belief system influence their work ?  

JG: I have a three year old now, so I'm into Doctor Seuss … I think, subconsciously Watts and Nietzsche play intricate roles in defining my definition of life and parenting, these two problematic solutions are more than enough to explain to my daughter, while spending the afternoon inspecting lady bugs on flowers at the park. Although, to her credit, her child like symposium of the symmetry of red body and black spots or was it black spots and red body are more truthful than any Nietzsche quote I could ever live by…


James Gabbard lives and works in Austin Texas. James is an Honorary Board Member of 
BUREAU of ARTS and Culture's Advisory Board.  





The Bureau Of Arts And Culture Magazine
PHOTO INTERVIEW LORNA STOVALL

Lorna Stovall is an Original Member of BUREAU of ARTS and CULTURE A participant of BUREAU Art Exhibitions in The Early Nineteen Nineties and an active influence on The BUREAU Graphic Style throughout the formative years. 
BUREAU: You’re a graphic artist as well as a photographer with a career that has spanned a few decades, what would you say is the reason why we as artists have the need to capture and share images?


Lorna Stovall: Well, when talking about graphic design and advertising, it is all about the need to communicate a message in a manner that stands out—period. When we talk about personal work, it becomes more complicated. I believe it is a way for the artist to communicate a feeling—a feeling that otherwise they may not be able to communicate. Whatever the feeling is—of horror or peace, humor or sadness—the artist feels a need to remember and, by sharing it with others, hopes the viewer will empathize with her. The artist is more vulnerable since the message is her own, but the designer is a step removed from the images she is creating since the message belongs to someone else.



BUREAU: Your body of work is vast, experimental and interesting, having lived on both The West and East Coast, is there a difference, in how the cities speak to us as artists? 


I would have to say yes, but that answer may also be a reflection of the different stages of my life while living in each place. In LA, during that time, there was cheap space available where artists could work and show art. I found there to be a fantastic sense of collaboration and support, a free flowing conversation between artists without the aid of Twitter, a social creative salon…and cars. Cars made it easy to go to out-of-the-way places for inspiration and tote materials around.In NY I feel you are constantly having your artistic conversation with the city. The difference in seasons, public transportation, pop-up everything, music, noise, people, walking—surprise and fascination is everywhere and it all influences an artist’s work somehow. There is also the influence of all the hundreds of museums, galleries, libraries and theater without going very far.I’ve also noticed the color palette of both cities is inherently different and must influence artists as they travel between the two places. The year round bleached-out sun colors and the blueness of the sky and ocean of LA vs. the changing colors of NY—Spring & Summer are oppressively green, Fall has its reds and browns, while winter is basic black, white & grey. With all that said, I love both cities for what they have to offer. They are unique, fascinating and inspirational in their own way. 



BUREAU: I have some of your early photographs of the sunflowers and have always liked your black & white imagery. What are you working on in this most recent exhibition? 


After I left advertising I was searching for what truly made me excited creatively. I looked back on my work and found it was the feeling of experimentation and chance that made me feel most alive. When I was in LA, I collected a lot of cameras that were “cheap” or outdated and played with what I could get out of those tools. After spending so much time with hyper-real retouched digital photos at work, I fell in love again with the imperfections these cameras offered. I had toyed with the idea of doing shows of photos taken with cameras under $20 and felt now it was a perfect time to explore this concept further. Since all of these cameras use film, I took courses to learn how to perfect a digital print so it looked like a darkroom print. With all the advances in printing and papers, I feel this is now possible. This particular portfolio is the beginning of the CU20$ series. 


" I looked back on my work and found it 
was the feeling of experimentation and 
chance that made me feel most alive." 


Growing up in Southern California, I spent a great deal of my childhood exploring the deserts of the southwest. To me, there was nothing more otherworldly than the Salton Sea, a failed yacht and beach resort in the middle of the desert. Without question, the Salton Sea had to be the first subject in my series—with it’s partially submerged neighborhood that brought a feeling of calm beauty within its never-ending tragic story. The stillness of the sea that day and the unconventional beauty of the salt formations on the weather-ravaged buildings was to me a bucolic landscape worth preserving in film. Most of the shots were done as panoramas to emphasize the vastness of the desert and the use of B&W infrared film exaggerated the desolation and otherworldliness of the location. I have been shooting other locations in this manner and am excited to continue on with the CU20$ series!


BUREAU: You’re a career artist that jumped into motherhood mid career. How has that influenced your work? 


Lorna Stovall: I would say motherhood has influenced the way I work and what I work on more than the work itself. After taking maternity leave while a Creative Director in Advertising, I realized that I didn’t want to go back to that world. Since I waited so long to have a child, I was lucky enough to be able to stay home and focus on raising him. A co-worker once said to me (when he became an “older” father) that in advertising, you put your heart and soul into a campaign, working long ridiculous hours, only to have the work be left in a drawer. With parenthood, you see the results of all that hard work daily. Now, instead of working on this project or that, I must focus on one idea and create during the time I have free—when my son is in school. This show is the first I have done within this framework and I feel like I have accomplished something to be proud of.
BUREAU: Back when the Bureau of Arts and Culture was an unofficial art space and later a gallery, your innovative graphic designs had a big influence on my work, I always considered you a safe person to learn from and emulated many of your innovations, whether it was utilizing rivets, or mixed media or simply being open to experimentation. In fact, I have collected most of your invitations and works all these years. Who would you site as your influences?


Lorna Stovall; Thank you. It is nice to hear there is someone else out there that keeps design inspirations for so long! I would have to say my influences are vast and varied. In college, I was influenced the most by 4AD Records. The music and the artwork (with Peter Saville as Art Director) at the time was very different than what was going on in America. Also, the magazine THE FACE was new and exciting (the Neville Brody years—I had a subscription for quite a while and still have all those issues!). But I think my use of alternative materials came from a combination of financial necessity (ie. super low to no budgets) and also from my fondness with experimentation. When I worked for Henk Elenga of Hard Werken, he shared his gift of mixing medias and disciplines, doing type by hand, and his enormous passion for the creative process. Remember, this was the time before there were computers in the studios, manipulations were done on a Zerox machine and type was set at typesetting houses. Because of this, I feel there was more down time that enabled experiments, collaborations and creativity. Around this time I was also discovering the film work of the Quay Brothers and Fellini as well as photographers such as Jan Sudek, Joel Peter Witkin, and on the commercial side, Nick Knight and Anton Corbin. Also, I was (and still am) a devotee of hardware, stationery and grocery stores when I travel—funky and amazing stuff to be had in the oddest of places! Inspiration and modes of execution can be found everywhere.



ABOUT LORNA STOVALL and the Salton Sea Images Currently at B & M ARTS in NYC With a BS in Applied Art. Lorna has worked in the print design field for 20+ years. Starting her career in the Los Angeles music industry, she specialized in hand lettering, logos, packaging, branding and advertising. During this time, Lorna explored her passion for photography, experimentation and the element of chance. In ad- dition to her commissioned work, Lorna created assemblage pieces that encompassed her photography. It was also at this time that she indulged her curiosity of using alternative cameras and processes for her photo- graphs. The concept of only using cameras under $10 was soon born (later changed to $20 due to inflation!). She scoured garage sales, swap meets and 5 & 10 stores for cameras she could alter and adapt to her vision. In the Salton Sea Series, the panorama shots used an Ansco Panorama PIX ($7 at any drugstore) adapted for infra- red film and the square shots used a Holga (2 for $15 at Maine Photographic Resources).


INSIDE THE NEW YORK CITY ART GALLERIES 
B & M Fine Arts Studios at www.bmfineartstudios.com
LORNA STOVALL PHOTOGRAPHS: THE SALTON SEA at B & M
Photographic Exhibition On View Through to October 11TH 2014 
The Square Format Images Measure 10 x10" , 15 x 15" and 16 x 16" An Edition of 30
The Panorama Images Vary from Approx 7.5 x 20" through to 15 x 41" An Edition of 15
Please contact The B&M Fine Art Studios for exact details / specific Image Measurements
All Rights to Images are Copyrighted and Belong Solely To The Artist Ms. Lorna Stovall





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